Learn about the history behind bailouts, why training is so important, what new systems are on the market and the techniques for using them in a round table discussion with firefighters Kelly Byrne, Dale Pekel, and LeRoy Harbach.
3:39 Dale, what was your first exposure to bailout systems?
9:35 When you started off making procedures and figuring out how to do bailout in the 90’s, was it mostly trial and error?
15:43 LeRoy, What was your first exposure to bailout?
19:42 Dale, do you remember your first solid bailout kit?
21:48 Dale, are you an escape belt guy or a harness in the pants guy?
24:14 LeRoy, were you a an escape belt guy or a harness in the pants guy when you were in the fire department?
27:28 Do you think there’s a negative connotation with the term ‘bailout kit’?
33:45 Forward deployed RIT teams.
38:01 The hook of the system rated as an emergency decent control device.
58:00 Fall protection harnesses for training.
110:03 Anchoring and running the rope or web around edges and corners to reduce force on the anchor.
116:58 What is the future of escape systems?
0:58 Dale’s YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/DALEGPEKEL/videos
18:16 / 105:07 Kelly Byrne, 2010 ITRS Defenestration Sensation Presentation: https://itrsonline.org/tproduct/1-840977196521-the-defenestration-sensation
18:50 London Fire Brigade training article from 1876: https://archive.org/details/fireprotectiona00shawgoog/page/n292/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater
51:40 Window Clearing, Anchoring and Exit Techniques: https://youtu.be/0K38As-hS7I
58:30 Dale’s Improvised webbing harness YouTube video https://youtu.be/r7OoDhfDo6U
105:20 Mike Forbes & Matt Hunt, 2016 ITRS The Impact of Extreme Fire Behavior on Firefighter Escape Systems https://itrsonline.org/tproduct/1-343920467761-the-impact-of-extreme-fire-behavior-on-f
106:10 2017 Ole Kills & John McKently, Is My Escape Line Still Safe After … ? An Investigation into the Fatigue Strength of Aramid Fibers in Escape Applications: https://itrsonline.org/tproduct/1-904616887791-is-my-escape-line-still-safe-after-an-in
113:50 Dale’s Tool in the Wall Technique YouTube video: https://youtu.be/0K38As-hS7I
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